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Re: Porn or Facebook -- Chose Her Own Adventure

PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 6:19 pm
by Lovey
It all depends. I'd like to know how many people consider the Outlander series "virtuous, lovely, of good report or praiseworthy."

hahaha of course Black Randall isn't!
This is what is lovely and worth reading:

At the very least, I should think that a scenario of an attractive and powerful man who was also attentive and kind to the woman he seduces would be very, very hot to many women viewers. Well, what about Outlander? Jamie takes Claire impetuously sometimes, but it's also in the way he treats her, talks to her, tells her how much he desires her.

Can you suggest any more titles like that?
I read the cliff notes to Anna Karenina and reads like a real Russian soap opera too. Such is life for some.

It is interesting that the church went from 19th century polygamy where church members were probably the most sexually liberal people of any Christian religion where multiple wives were promoted as a cure for masturbation, and clearly a lot of sex was taking place when men had multiple large families, to a twentieth century culture of being probably one of the most sexually conservative Christian religions.

I highly doubt that this period of our culture was nearly as sexually appealing as it sounds. At least for women. Having many children, working the fields and having your husband gone most of the time does not sound like a romp to me.

The suggestion, and this makes sense to me, is that the positive correlation is related to the motivations behind porn use. Is it because men tend to use porn "auto-erotically" -- for their own pleasure, where women tend to use porn as part of fostering and developing their eroticism within the relationship? I have noted this before that our positive rhetoric around sex has long taught that sex is "allowed and good" within marriage, but have we ever really taught that we should "foster an overall more erotic climate in the [marriage] relationship"?

I think you're onto something, Mr Shorty. Yes, I believe we should foster a more erotic climate in our marriage relationship. How? And still keep things lovely, praiseworthy and of good report? :lol:

Re: Porn or Facebook -- Chose Her Own Adventure

PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:24 pm
by Jgtrs
As I've said before, back when my wife was mostly uninterested in sex, the occasional accidental or overt dalleance into porn (on her part) generally resulted in good things in the bedroom and a significant improvement in marital intimacy and happiness. It was interesting and a bit confusing for us since we were being taught that porn was all bad. I do not believe it is all bad, at least not for us.

That had been my experience.

I believe that porn can be employed for positive, and it can be very negative as well. A key difference, in my opinion, relates to whether or not it isolates or brings couples together.

I also think porn's benefit probably has a relatively short shelf life or is only effective now and then.

Re: Porn or Facebook -- Chose Her Own Adventure

PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:47 pm
by be64
Lovey wrote:
It all depends. I'd like to know how many people consider the Outlander series "virtuous, lovely, of good report or praiseworthy."

hahaha of course Black Randall isn't!
This is what is lovely and worth reading:

At the very least, I should think that a scenario of an attractive and powerful man who was also attentive and kind to the woman he seduces would be very, very hot to many women viewers. Well, what about Outlander? Jamie takes Claire impetuously sometimes, but it's also in the way he treats her, talks to her, tells her how much he desires her.

Can you suggest any more titles like that?
I read the cliff notes to Anna Karenina and reads like a real Russian soap opera too. Such is life for some.

It is interesting that the church went from 19th century polygamy where church members were probably the most sexually liberal people of any Christian religion where multiple wives were promoted as a cure for masturbation, and clearly a lot of sex was taking place when men had multiple large families, to a twentieth century culture of being probably one of the most sexually conservative Christian religions.

I highly doubt that this period of our culture was nearly as sexually appealing as it sounds. At least for women. Having many children, working the fields and having your husband gone most of the time does not sound like a romp to me.

The suggestion, and this makes sense to me, is that the positive correlation is related to the motivations behind porn use. Is it because men tend to use porn "auto-erotically" -- for their own pleasure, where women tend to use porn as part of fostering and developing their eroticism within the relationship? I have noted this before that our positive rhetoric around sex has long taught that sex is "allowed and good" within marriage, but have we ever really taught that we should "foster an overall more erotic climate in the [marriage] relationship"?

I think you're onto something, Mr Shorty. Yes, I believe we should foster a more erotic climate in our marriage relationship. How? And still keep things lovely, praiseworthy and of good report? :lol:


I don't pretend to think that sex in polygamy was a desirable situation for all involved, but my point was that to the common Christians of the day Mormons must have looked quite sexually decadent.

As for your last comment, I've given many good reports here of my wife and my lovely praiseworthy sex.

Re: Porn or Facebook -- Chose Her Own Adventure

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 1:45 pm
by monkey55
I would love my wife to look at anything! She does spend time on facebook. .i want her to spend equal time searching for erotic things for us to do - toys, positions, ideas, lingerie, whatever . ..if that means she watches a few things. .good on her

Re: Porn or Facebook -- Chose Her Own Adventure

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 8:06 am
by Swish
be64 wrote:
I'll also call it like it is and say that watching porn together is a sin. It is quite clear that viewing pornography is a sin and as such watching it together is merely sinning together, which does not make it okay.


be64 wrote:
I assume that much of pornography is merely sex acts performed or described in order to elicit sexual pleasure in the viewer/reader, however what if the porn in question was, as has been noted above, the portrayal of the loving, caring sexual relation of a married couple? Would that change its value as pornography or in other words would that make it beneficial to the viewer/reader in improving his/her own married sexual relationships?

If I view porn, which very rarely happens, and it makes me horny for my wife is that a bad thing?

Clearly if pornography replaces sex in a marriage that is not a good thing, but what if it improves sex in a marriage? If that is possible.


Be64. I know you've been easily the most active member of this forum for the last few months, so you may not keep track of what you say all the time. But it seems like these two posts contradict each other from the last couple of months.

So is your view on porn evolving, or do you just change your mind from time to time? I am just trying to understand how you can come out so strongly in the topic of "watching porn together" and call everyone a sinner and not okay, and then a few weeks later you are saying it is something that possibly can strengthen a marriage?